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Well the comment above was expressing disbelief that more people are not up in arms about this.

When you realize the tiny tiny percentage of people that have a phone that is not apple or google, you understand why few people are up in arms.

It simply doesn’t affect many people.

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This feels like arguing that people wouldn't object to having a shock collar padlocked around their neck because it's not currently shocking them. You don't have to see very many moves ahead to guess what happens if you don't object.

Whereas if the collar is touted as fashionable and the lock is hidden until it's engaged, now your problem is not that people don't care, it's that they don't know, which is different.


I don't think this analogy comes even close to holding water.

So cementing a dependency on paperclip-optimizing foreign megacorps to intermediate all your purchases and communications doesn't allow them to influence your behavior?

A dependency on a paperclip optimizing foregin megacorp is not remotely compara le to a "shock collar padlocked around your neck"

So getting shadow banned into a depression spiral that causes you to commit suicide because you think everyone in the world is ignoring you, or locking the account that all your other accounts at all other companies and even government services are tied to with no recourse, or constantly spying on everything you do with all of the corresponding chilling effects... is your point that it's actually worse than a shock collar?

I’m not for one second saying I like it, agree with it, or support it.

I’m just saying there are not many people impacted, so there are not going to be many people making noise.

People are simply too deep in the trenches of day to day to object to things that don’t impact them personally




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